Child groomer pleads guilty but says it was all a joke

A child groomer arrested after a trip to Vietnam has pleaded guilty despite maintaining his sexual requests were a joke that he had no intention of fulfilling. 

Doncaster man John Francis Winter, 74, on Tuesday appeared in the County Court of Victoria. 

He pleaded guilty to a single charge of grooming a person to make it easier to engage in sexual activity with a child outside Australia. 

Winter was arrested last year following an investigation by Australian Border Force when he arrived at Melbourne International Airport from Vietnam. 

His baggage and electronic devices were examined, with ABF officers locating messages between the man and a facilitator outside Australia, about hiring young children for sexual activity.

His home was also searched.

Prosecutor Christina Hill told the court, in subsequent police interviews, Winter agreed he had sent messages to a woman called 'Eva', who he had met on Cupid Vietnam, discussing sex with children under the age of 18. 

But he claimed he was "just joking" and "was just seeing how far it would go".

In one exchange he introduced the topic of children and was specific that the child should be 12 years old, Ms Hill told the court. 

She said Winter also discussed with 'Eva' whether parents of the children would be a barrier or whether they would assist and offered a cover story that he "liked to play". 

"He also suggested two locations where the sexual activity could take place, and that is a hotel or the bush," Ms Hill said. 

"It is grooming conduct."

Judge Andrew Tinney raised concerns that a psychologist report prepared for the court clearly stated that Winter denied he had done anything wrong as recently as April 2023, despite his guilty plea. 

The report, prepared by Jeffrey Cummins, stated that Winter had maintained his innocence, but due to legal advice that a trial would be costly - had pleaded guilty.

"Based on that, there is no contrition in his plea," Judge Tinney said.

Winter's lawyer Dermot Connors conceded that Winter didn't initially have a proper appreciation as to the seriousness of his offences.

"But there has been growing awareness," Mr Connors told the court.

The maximum penalty for the offence is 15 years' imprisonment.

Mr Connors argued his client should not receive a custodial sentence, based on exceptional circumstances including Winter's age and his unusual upbringing as well as his early guilty plea.

Ms Hill said the court was in its scope to hand down a term of imprisonment. 

JudgeTinney extended Winter's bail and adjourned the matter for sentencing on Thursday.

What is AAPNews?

For the first time, Australian Associated Press is delivering news straight to the consumer.

No ads. No spin. News straight-up.

Not only do you get to enjoy high-quality news delivered straight to your desktop or device, you do so in the knowledge you are supporting media diversity in Australia.

AAP Is Australia’s only independent newswire service, free from political and commercial influence, producing fact-based public interest journalism across a range of topics including politics, courts, sport, finance and entertainment.

What is AAPNews?
The Morning Wire

Wake up to AAPNews’ morning news bulletin delivered straight to your inbox or mobile device, bringing you up to speed with all that has happened overnight at home and abroad, as well as setting you up what the day has in store.

AAPNews Morning Wire
AAPNews Breaking News
Breaking News

Be the first to know when major breaking news happens.


Notifications will be sent to your device whenever a big story breaks, ensuring you are never in the dark when the talking points happen.

Focused Content

Enjoy the best of AAP’s specialised Topics in Focus. AAP has reporters dedicated to bringing you hard news and feature content across a range of specialised topics including Environment, Agriculture, Future Economies, Arts and Refugee Issues.

AAPNews Focussed Content
Subscription Plans

Choose the plan that best fits your needs. AAPNews offers two basic subscriptions, all billed monthly.

Once you sign up, you will have seven days to test out the service before being billed.

AAPNews Full Access Plan
Full Access
AU$10
  • Enjoy all that AAPNews has to offer
  • Access to breaking news notifications and bulletins
  • Includes access to all AAPNews’ specialised topics
Join Now
AAPNews Student Access Plan
Student Access
AU$5
  • Gain access via a verified student email account
  • Enjoy all the benefits of the ‘Full Access’ plan at a reduced rate
  • Subscription renews each month
Join Now
AAPNews Annual Access Plan
Annual Access
AU$99
  • All the benefits of the 'Full Access' subscription at a discounted rate
  • Subscription automatically renews after 12 months
Join Now

AAPNews also offers enterprise deals for businesses so you can provide an AAPNews account for your team, organisation or customers. Click here to contact AAP to sign-up your business today.

SEVEN DAYS FREE
Download the app
Download AAPNews on the App StoreDownload AAPNews on the Google Play Store